1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:16,670 hey 2 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:28,710 [Music] 3 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,890 machine 4 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:37,590 [Music] 5 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:40,549 blast off on another episode of hero 6 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,480 paranormal podcast 7 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:44,640 broadcasting from the base at la madre 8 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:47,520 mountain just south of area 51. 9 00:00:51,750 --> 00:00:49,039 my name is ryan 10 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:51,760 the original overseer of the air waves 11 00:00:57,750 --> 00:00:55,199 bringing you an epic episode today 12 00:01:00,310 --> 00:00:57,760 on today's podcast we have eric 13 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:00,320 awakening man of the awakening man 14 00:01:06,070 --> 00:01:03,120 podcast a great podcast that just went 15 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:06,080 on a deep dive with richard dodie 16 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:08,320 highly recommend checking it out in your 17 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:09,600 spare time 18 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:11,680 we are going to go into a bunch of stuff 19 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:13,760 today i will ask him his opinion on 20 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:16,159 current conspiracies 21 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,880 and hopefully get him to tell uh one of 22 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:20,640 my favorite sasquatch stories of all 23 00:01:24,310 --> 00:01:22,560 time and maybe a few others 24 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:24,320 but can't promise on the second one 25 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:27,200 that's entirely up to him and aside from 26 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:30,479 the podcast life eric awakening man also 27 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:32,320 goes out in the field 28 00:01:36,149 --> 00:01:33,680 quite often 29 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:36,159 which he is out in the field today a guy 30 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:38,320 who really gets out there and checks 31 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:40,240 everything out checks the stuff out on 32 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:42,479 his own goes to the conferences goes to 33 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:43,360 the 34 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:45,439 places of high strangeness eric 35 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:47,759 awakening man welcome to the hero 36 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:50,560 paranormal podcast 37 00:01:54,870 --> 00:01:52,320 awesome thanks for having me on ryan i'm 38 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:54,880 excited to talk to you today 39 00:01:59,270 --> 00:01:57,280 yeah it's gonna be great um we are gonna 40 00:02:01,350 --> 00:01:59,280 get into all kinds of stuff i hope today 41 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:01,360 and uh where are you just so our 42 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:04,560 listeners know where are you at uh today 43 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:07,119 i'm in new mexico uh at the 44 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,679 national petroglyph monument which uh 45 00:02:13,589 --> 00:02:11,520 after this conversation i'm going to get 46 00:02:15,430 --> 00:02:13,599 out and take about a half a mile hike up 47 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:15,440 into the mountains here and uh 48 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:18,480 i i have i've seen many petroglyphs all 49 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:19,440 over 50 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:22,239 nevada and new mexico and arizona i've 51 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:25,120 probably been to at least 10 different 52 00:02:29,510 --> 00:02:27,200 really good spots and it's it's 53 00:02:31,509 --> 00:02:29,520 interesting because sometimes you'll see 54 00:02:33,030 --> 00:02:31,519 a lot of this symbols that are similar i 55 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:33,040 mean they'll be almost identical but 56 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:34,480 then sometimes you'll come across 57 00:02:38,309 --> 00:02:36,480 symbols like we did when we were out 58 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:38,319 there in the red rocks uh in summerlin 59 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:40,800 that i hadn't seen before so it's always 60 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:42,720 interesting to you know it's like a when 61 00:02:45,430 --> 00:02:44,160 you explore these things you never know 62 00:02:46,869 --> 00:02:45,440 what you're going to see until you get 63 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:46,879 there and then just to imagine what 64 00:02:50,790 --> 00:02:48,879 these things mean and what these people 65 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:50,800 were trying to communicate 66 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,040 uh you know it's fascinating to me and 67 00:02:57,589 --> 00:02:54,959 to use i'm sure as well 68 00:02:59,910 --> 00:02:57,599 right i mean just to think not not only 69 00:03:01,350 --> 00:02:59,920 were people out there inscribing these 70 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:01,360 and creating these petroglyphs and 71 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:04,080 pictographs but what were they trying to 72 00:03:08,949 --> 00:03:06,400 like you said i mean does this in my 73 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:08,959 opinion this has a lot of different uh 74 00:03:12,550 --> 00:03:10,560 paths we can go down do you think there 75 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:12,560 is an extraterrestrial connection or 76 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:14,720 maybe intra-terrestrial 77 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:15,840 oh 100 78 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:16,879 i mean 79 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:19,599 just by the shape of these uh these 80 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:21,280 you know bipedal 81 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,879 symbols i mean you've got arms you've 82 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:24,560 got legs sometimes you've got big heads 83 00:03:27,589 --> 00:03:25,920 with antennas coming out of them 84 00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:27,599 sometimes you've got tails 85 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:29,599 coming out of the backside some of them 86 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:30,239 are 87 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:33,760 mean there's just a variety sometimes 88 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:36,159 you see these spiral things and 89 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:37,760 you i wonder if that's like you know 90 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:40,400 some sort of dimension or portal i mean 91 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:42,640 i don't know but uh what's interesting 92 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:44,720 for me as i do research about 93 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:46,640 information that that's more modern like 94 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:47,760 stuff that's 95 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:50,640 in today's rel that's relative today 96 00:03:53,509 --> 00:03:52,480 and then you correlate that with what 97 00:03:55,030 --> 00:03:53,519 people might have been trying to 98 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:55,040 communicate you know 99 00:03:58,789 --> 00:03:56,720 thousands maybe millions of years ago 100 00:04:00,149 --> 00:03:58,799 and however long these petroglyphs have 101 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:00,159 been there i couldn't tell you exactly 102 00:04:05,350 --> 00:04:03,680 but i i see a i see a storyline that 103 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:05,360 that just kind of flows that it seems 104 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:07,200 like the same stories have been told 105 00:04:10,869 --> 00:04:09,040 over and over and over again for 106 00:04:12,630 --> 00:04:10,879 hundreds of years and they're just told 107 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:12,640 from from a different perspective from a 108 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:15,280 different uh era which is fascinating to 109 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:16,000 me 110 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:18,560 yeah it is it's weird how 111 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:19,919 you're absolutely right it's so 112 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:23,040 unscripted how the um 113 00:04:27,909 --> 00:04:25,680 the whole genre of ufos or 114 00:04:30,230 --> 00:04:27,919 you know these these machines in the sky 115 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:30,240 or what you know other cultures call 116 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:32,160 other things i think the semantics is 117 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:33,120 really 118 00:04:37,270 --> 00:04:34,800 what gets everybody stuck in the mud 119 00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:37,280 once you rise above that and you realize 120 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:39,280 okay were there things in the sky are 121 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:42,160 they depicted are they still depicted 122 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:44,400 and what's the correlation then you rise 123 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:45,919 above all the muck and realize that 124 00:04:51,030 --> 00:04:49,680 there's a lot going on and 125 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:51,040 it's it's 126 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:53,600 it's wild it's wild 127 00:04:58,790 --> 00:04:55,759 i love it i i think it's you know some 128 00:05:00,790 --> 00:04:58,800 people i find um 129 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:00,800 well i'll try to simplify this you know 130 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:04,000 i'm i'm 59 years old i i think if you 131 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:06,960 for as an example if you look at the 132 00:05:11,909 --> 00:05:09,039 the people now let's say between 20 and 133 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:11,919 30 and then 30 and 40 and 40 and 50 and 134 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:13,520 then even the older people i i 135 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:14,639 personally 136 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:16,400 i get a lot of value in having 137 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:18,880 conversations with people you know 60 70 138 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:21,120 80 years old because they're getting a 139 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:22,960 vast perspective 140 00:05:25,830 --> 00:05:24,639 uh and that and today's younger 141 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:25,840 generation 142 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:28,479 uh they are they're they're so much more 143 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:31,520 influenced by maybe stuff that's on 144 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:33,360 youtube for example 145 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:35,520 i call them armchair youtube general 146 00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:36,960 researchers i mean they're not real 147 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:38,639 researchers they just collect 148 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:40,880 information off of youtube and then they 149 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:42,720 use their own reasoning which is very 150 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:43,919 limited that doesn't mean they're not 151 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:46,080 intelligent it just means that they 152 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:47,680 haven't actually gone out and talked to 153 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:50,000 people or actually gone out and spent a 154 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:52,240 night looking in the sky or going to 155 00:05:57,670 --> 00:05:54,880 these spots and once for me personally 156 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:57,680 once you experience these things not by 157 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:59,120 reading about it or listening to 158 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:01,039 somebody else's story but if you can 159 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:02,560 actually get yourself to an area where 160 00:06:07,110 --> 00:06:04,880 you can have experiences then the bigger 161 00:06:09,189 --> 00:06:07,120 picture starts to become more clear and 162 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:09,199 it's easier to believe these stories but 163 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:11,120 uh anyway so that's what i try to do i 164 00:06:15,189 --> 00:06:13,360 try to i try to find information and 165 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:15,199 content that i can share and people 166 00:06:19,430 --> 00:06:17,840 trust my my stories they're not bs i'm 167 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:19,440 not trying to fluff anything up i'm not 168 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:21,280 trying to get rich off of any of this 169 00:06:25,270 --> 00:06:23,360 information this is a hobby to me i love 170 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:25,280 it you know that's my perspective and 171 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:27,919 that's the truth you are really not 172 00:06:31,270 --> 00:06:29,360 you're you're in it for all the right 173 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:31,280 reasons and you know having been out in 174 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:33,520 the field with you it becomes perfectly 175 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,360 clear and i think you know that's what 176 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:37,440 keeps people going back out in the field 177 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:39,520 and you're right when when you 178 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,680 when you experience this as you have 179 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:43,440 already said 180 00:06:48,070 --> 00:06:45,360 you you realize that there's so many 181 00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:48,080 layers to what's going on 182 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:50,800 yeah yeah and you know it's i i want a 183 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:52,479 quick story before i tell you this quick 184 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:53,360 story 185 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:56,160 um but the name of our show on youtube 186 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:58,479 is called altered 187 00:07:01,909 --> 00:07:00,240 just because you said erica waking man 188 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:01,919 which is my twitter name but altered is 189 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:03,599 if you if someone is listening right now 190 00:07:06,469 --> 00:07:04,639 and they want to 191 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:06,479 go and watch the youtube you might have 192 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:09,360 to type in mini coaches altered but we 193 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:10,880 are out there and if you're on twitter 194 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,520 you could find it at awakening man and 195 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:15,360 but anyway yeah so i spent the last two 196 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:18,560 days with richard dodie um he invited me 197 00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:19,919 actually to his house i was there 198 00:07:22,950 --> 00:07:21,759 yesterday morning and i was anticipating 199 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:22,960 was just going to be a couple hours 200 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:25,120 we're going to hang out and talk because 201 00:07:28,629 --> 00:07:26,319 he and i 202 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:28,639 i could say this now publicly that he 203 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:30,240 and i are actually going to do a radio 204 00:07:35,909 --> 00:07:33,440 show together that is so cool that is so 205 00:07:38,309 --> 00:07:35,919 awesome it's very cool because uh i i 206 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:38,319 wanted to know from him okay because he 207 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:40,479 has a lot of information that he worked 208 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:42,160 for hal put off i mean he knows kit 209 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:44,800 green he knows he knows the top people 210 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:47,039 in the field that that we can't get to 211 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:48,240 personally you and i we're not going to 212 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:49,440 get to these people and if we could 213 00:07:52,869 --> 00:07:51,039 they're not going to tell us anything 214 00:07:54,550 --> 00:07:52,879 but he's worked for these people he 215 00:07:55,510 --> 00:07:54,560 knows the information he knows what's 216 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:55,520 real 217 00:07:58,710 --> 00:07:56,800 uh and and 218 00:08:00,950 --> 00:07:58,720 during our conversation uh one of the 219 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:00,960 things i was asking him about 220 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:03,199 is the you know the aliens at area 51. i 221 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:04,080 mean 222 00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:06,000 you probably heard the stories 223 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:07,840 and uh you know recently he was on a 224 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:09,520 radio show and he was talking about an 225 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:12,240 alien that was at area 51 that escaped 226 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:15,599 and uh it somehow got off to off the uh 227 00:08:20,070 --> 00:08:17,919 off the groom lake facility whichever 228 00:08:22,390 --> 00:08:20,080 one it was at i don't know but then it 229 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:22,400 was able to get into the property and a 230 00:08:25,749 --> 00:08:24,240 ranch on the other side of the mountain 231 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:25,759 range which would have been near the 232 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:28,000 extraterrestrial highway and this was a 233 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:29,680 long time ago we're talking probably i'm 234 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:32,000 going to guess like 30 or 40 years ago 235 00:08:34,389 --> 00:08:33,360 i don't remember the exact date this 236 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:34,399 happened but 237 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:36,560 uh some rancher apparently saw this 238 00:08:40,469 --> 00:08:37,519 being 239 00:08:41,829 --> 00:08:40,479 and shot it and killed it and so but so 240 00:08:44,149 --> 00:08:41,839 i didn't believe the story but i didn't 241 00:08:46,630 --> 00:08:44,159 disbelieve it yeah i try to keep an open 242 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:46,640 mind but but what i said to dodie was i 243 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:47,360 said 244 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:49,600 uh you know i did a twitter poll i 245 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:50,720 because every other people that were 246 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,480 listening to the story and i said you 247 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:54,560 know who believes the story yes or no 248 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:56,240 and eighty percent of the people didn't 249 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:58,320 believe the story right and i just like 250 00:09:01,110 --> 00:08:59,920 and i tell dodie i said you know i said 251 00:09:03,030 --> 00:09:01,120 i'm not saying i don't believe your 252 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:03,040 story but most of the people do not 253 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:07,440 believe her story and so at his house 254 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:09,120 he pulls out you know he opens up his 255 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:11,040 computer and he's got documents there 256 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:12,640 and he says now i can't let you look at 257 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:14,560 all this i can let you glance at it you 258 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:16,640 can kind of see a few things but some of 259 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:19,360 this is classified information oh man 260 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:21,040 and i said i said well can i take a 261 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:22,959 picture of something 262 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:24,959 but just so i can if i ever want to tell 263 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:26,800 somebody that here here look at this i 264 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:28,240 mean i'm not making this up here's some 265 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:30,320 pictures of the documents just so you 266 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:32,640 know that i didn't make this up and so 267 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:34,320 he did allow me to take some pictures 268 00:09:37,509 --> 00:09:35,519 but uh 269 00:09:38,949 --> 00:09:37,519 but but then he said to me you know he's 270 00:09:40,790 --> 00:09:38,959 an easy guy to talk to actually if he 271 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:40,800 trusts you and he likes you he will he 272 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:42,480 will chat with you very openly and 273 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:44,720 candidly and so at one point when i when 274 00:09:46,949 --> 00:09:45,760 i was telling him you know i don't 275 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:46,959 people don't believe that there's a 276 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:49,040 there were he goes no eric i don't know 277 00:09:53,110 --> 00:09:50,880 if there's aliens there now 278 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:53,120 but i promise you he goes i will he goes 279 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:54,959 i will never lie to you and he looked me 280 00:09:57,750 --> 00:09:56,160 right in the eye and i know some people 281 00:09:59,350 --> 00:09:57,760 are thinking oh well that's what he's 282 00:10:01,190 --> 00:09:59,360 that's his job he's you know he worked 283 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:01,200 in intelligence he's a misinforment 284 00:10:07,350 --> 00:10:04,399 agent well maybe 30 years ago true but 285 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:07,360 but i don't think that i see no agenda i 286 00:10:10,949 --> 00:10:09,120 see no reason why 287 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:10,959 he there's no benefit for him 288 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:13,279 financially or any reason i can imagine 289 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:14,880 why he would want to just make stuff up 290 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:17,120 just to impress me he doesn't strike me 291 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:18,800 as the kind of guy that's got the kind 292 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:20,240 of ego where he's trying to impress 293 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:22,800 people with bs stories right 294 00:10:27,509 --> 00:10:25,600 but uh but but aliens uh 295 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:27,519 they're real they exist they're they're 296 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:30,399 not only visiting but they're here 297 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:32,880 but i mean i believe that 100 i can't 298 00:10:39,670 --> 00:10:34,800 prove it to you i haven't met one but 299 00:10:42,150 --> 00:10:41,030 i'll go ahead and comment and i'll tell 300 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:42,160 you another story if you want to talk 301 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:44,160 about uh something else i can i can go 302 00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:46,800 go for hours about this stuff yeah yeah 303 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:48,640 no i love it and that's kind of the 304 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:50,560 circle of information i'm trying to get 305 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:53,120 into is this extraterrestrial or 306 00:10:57,670 --> 00:10:55,839 ultra-terrestrial like these entities 307 00:11:00,550 --> 00:10:57,680 that have been here for millennia and 308 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:00,560 have been described for millennia and 309 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:03,360 how people do describe them differently 310 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:05,200 but i mean even in the bible they have 311 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:07,200 you know when jesus is born you have 312 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:09,680 this alien well this angel excuse me 313 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:10,800 come down 314 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:12,480 and it 315 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:14,399 quite literally is scaring all of the 316 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:16,959 shepherds and you have all of this 317 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:18,000 sky 318 00:11:21,750 --> 00:11:19,760 slash craft 319 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:21,760 stuff mixed in wheel in the sky with 320 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:24,160 ezekiel and not just to get on the 321 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:26,560 biblical stuff this is in every culture 322 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:28,959 and in all of the old texts and even on 323 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:31,440 the rock walls where how how are they 324 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:33,440 here already i can't wait to go into 325 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:34,240 this 326 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:35,600 well um 327 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:37,440 again this is just based on my opinion 328 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:39,680 on my own research uh 329 00:11:43,110 --> 00:11:41,279 well one of the reasons why i did this 330 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:43,120 show altered with the with my co-host 331 00:11:49,030 --> 00:11:46,800 vinnie coaches that's k-o-c-s-i-s 332 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:49,040 she wrote a book uh several years ago uh 333 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:50,800 called cult child and it was it's based 334 00:11:54,629 --> 00:11:52,720 on a true story of her life 335 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:54,639 uh when she was three years old she was 336 00:12:00,389 --> 00:11:57,600 taken into a a cult it was a religious 337 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:00,399 cult and they were taken to an island in 338 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:03,120 alaska where he was raised there and 339 00:12:07,190 --> 00:12:05,600 had some many horrific experiences but 340 00:12:09,269 --> 00:12:07,200 for whatever reason 341 00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:09,279 um one of the things that the people 342 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:11,200 that were running this cult 343 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:13,360 were taking her to this base and she 344 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:14,880 told me where the base is she wants to 345 00:12:17,509 --> 00:12:16,720 go back out there she wants to prove to 346 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:17,519 me 347 00:12:21,509 --> 00:12:19,200 that what the story that she writes 348 00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:21,519 about uh is true and she says that they 349 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:23,600 took her to this i call it a base but 350 00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:25,760 whatever it is it's an underground uh 351 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:27,440 location in a mountain what's you know 352 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:28,720 we always hear these stories about 353 00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:30,480 underground locations and mountains and 354 00:12:35,030 --> 00:12:33,040 uh quite frankly i believe very firmly 355 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:35,040 that there are non-human 356 00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:38,079 uh entities or intelligences that are in 357 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:41,120 the earth i believe in that personally 358 00:12:45,269 --> 00:12:43,120 and he said that she interacted with 359 00:12:46,949 --> 00:12:45,279 this being she calls it a gray 360 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,959 because it was kind of gray in color and 361 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:48,320 had kind of 362 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:51,279 the larger head but in her case the eyes 363 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:53,120 were not the large almond eyes they were 364 00:12:57,269 --> 00:12:55,040 more standard kind of human shaped eyes 365 00:12:59,190 --> 00:12:57,279 maybe slightly between the almond and 366 00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:59,200 the human eyes not not quite as you know 367 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:00,560 what i'm saying they're just different 368 00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:02,959 right and she said her experience 369 00:13:07,750 --> 00:13:05,440 uh with this being uh was very loving 370 00:13:09,670 --> 00:13:07,760 and it was a positive experience and 371 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:09,680 and so i and then uh 372 00:13:13,269 --> 00:13:11,760 sidestep here real quick uh at breakfast 373 00:13:14,949 --> 00:13:13,279 this morning i was talking to richard 374 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:14,959 and we were i was you know well here's 375 00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:16,240 how it works with research and you 376 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:17,839 probably know this is uh 377 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:19,600 if you go out and you do research and 378 00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:21,120 you find information and then you're 379 00:13:24,389 --> 00:13:23,120 able to maybe confirm or verify it as 380 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:24,399 best as you can 381 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:25,920 and then you let's say you form an 382 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:27,440 opinion that you believe it 383 00:13:30,230 --> 00:13:28,800 and then so now you've got like a 384 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:30,240 treasure trove of stories and 385 00:13:33,829 --> 00:13:31,839 information so then you come across a 386 00:13:35,590 --> 00:13:33,839 guy like rick dodie for example and 387 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:35,600 you're and you're talking and you start 388 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:38,000 and i so i'm sharing this stuff with him 389 00:13:42,069 --> 00:13:40,079 and so he's like shaking his head saying 390 00:13:43,509 --> 00:13:42,079 yeah he goes that's true and i'm like i 391 00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:43,519 don't think he's not just stroking my 392 00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:46,160 ego and so what it does is it prompts 393 00:13:50,389 --> 00:13:47,440 him then 394 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:50,399 to tell me a story that corroborates the 395 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:52,320 story that i just told him so here we 396 00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:54,560 are back and forth for six hours 397 00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:56,880 sharing stories but his toys trust me 398 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:59,680 are way more impressive than mine 399 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:01,440 oh i don't know yours are pretty good 400 00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:03,360 he's had the real experiences he worked 401 00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:05,519 at area 51 he was out there i mean he 402 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:06,399 grew up 403 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:08,000 anyway yeah i can go ramble on and on 404 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:09,920 and on but yeah they're here uh some of 405 00:14:12,870 --> 00:14:11,839 them i think are are here for a good 406 00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:12,880 reason 407 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:14,079 um 408 00:14:17,670 --> 00:14:16,000 the whole reptilian thing uh you know 409 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:17,680 i've been i've been up and down the 410 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:20,079 ladder on that on that story i i tend to 411 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:21,760 believe that uh 412 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:24,240 there is some type well some sources 413 00:14:27,829 --> 00:14:25,680 that i've talked to or i'm pretty 414 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:27,839 convinced that they probably telling the 415 00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:28,720 truth 416 00:14:32,310 --> 00:14:30,160 that there are different types of 417 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:32,320 reptilians and then these uh maybe 418 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:34,000 they're not all bad but there are a few 419 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:36,000 of them that are don't have the best 420 00:14:41,189 --> 00:14:39,040 interest of mankind uh in their agenda 421 00:14:43,829 --> 00:14:41,199 and so we're we do have this kind of yin 422 00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:43,839 and yang thing going with uh with humans 423 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:46,240 and and and et's of various types that 424 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:48,639 are you know maybe here to help humanity 425 00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:50,000 and maybe others that are trying to 426 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:51,839 break humanity down and then that could 427 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:53,839 spin off into all sorts of conspiracy 428 00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:56,000 fantasies which may or may not be true i 429 00:15:00,790 --> 00:14:57,839 try to stay away from that but i don't 430 00:15:03,430 --> 00:15:00,800 discount the possibility of any of it 431 00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:03,440 you know it's hard to it's hard to uh 432 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:05,760 ignore it's when you start looking at it 433 00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:08,320 where there's smoke there's fire and 434 00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:09,839 like you said it's easy to go down these 435 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:11,600 spiritual 436 00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:12,560 different 437 00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:14,079 you know there's there's a million ways 438 00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:15,279 you can go from there because you're 439 00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:16,959 dealing with entities that are not our 440 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:19,120 own and consciousness 441 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:21,680 and uh there's all kinds of quantum 442 00:15:24,829 --> 00:15:23,760 activity involved and it really does 443 00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:24,839 seem like 444 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:26,639 governments and 445 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:28,399 uh 446 00:15:32,230 --> 00:15:30,000 ritual magic 447 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:32,240 and all kinds of other things 448 00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:34,000 kind of intersect 449 00:15:40,389 --> 00:15:38,320 when it comes to this this topic um 450 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:40,399 yeah is is there any truth what what 451 00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:42,000 what where where do we want to go from 452 00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:42,959 here 453 00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:45,040 um well yeah like you said the the 454 00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:46,639 ritual magic thing that's interesting 455 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:48,240 because uh okay i'll tell you a story 456 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:49,680 are you familiar with the blood cells 457 00:15:52,949 --> 00:15:51,360 chris bledsoe 458 00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:52,959 yeah absolutely 459 00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:55,279 okay so a couple years ago 460 00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:57,360 i went to a conference uh in san 461 00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:59,440 francisco and the reason why i went 462 00:16:02,949 --> 00:16:00,800 there is about four hour drive from my 463 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:02,959 house uh was chris bledsoe was going to 464 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:04,320 be there and i'd heard his story i'd 465 00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:05,600 seen the the 466 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:08,800 the the documentary that they filmed uh 467 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:11,279 on his story and i was very intrigued by 468 00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:13,199 it and so i wanted to meet him you know 469 00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:14,959 for me it will probably for you too is 470 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:15,839 uh 471 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:17,360 you know you get a sense when you hear a 472 00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:19,360 story after a while if you think there's 473 00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:21,199 there could be truth to it so if you 474 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:23,120 want to try to verify in your own mind 475 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:24,800 how how much you want to choose to 476 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:27,519 believe in it the best way is to try to 477 00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:28,880 if you want to be a researcher you've 478 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:30,720 got to you've got to go out and and meet 479 00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:32,320 these people and and you better be 480 00:16:35,749 --> 00:16:33,600 prepared to be 481 00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:35,759 polite and kind and professional and 482 00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:38,000 non-judgmental because if you come with 483 00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:39,920 these people in a manner that they're 484 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:41,279 not going to be feeling like you're 485 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:42,720 trying to uh 486 00:16:46,389 --> 00:16:44,800 set them up for some sort of debunking 487 00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:46,399 then they'll and you and you talk to 488 00:16:50,629 --> 00:16:48,399 them like a human being would talk you 489 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:50,639 know through their neighbor and 490 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:52,079 they'll talk to you and they'll they'll 491 00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:53,360 share things with you and then if they 492 00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:54,959 if they start to think that okay this is 493 00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:56,800 this guy's a good guy he's all right 494 00:17:00,870 --> 00:16:59,120 he's not just some yahoo out here just 495 00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:00,880 just living in some fantasy world he's 496 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:02,560 actually looking into this stuff he so 497 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:04,480 they you you can establish your 498 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:06,400 credibility by doing the research 499 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:07,679 yourself and then when you have a 500 00:17:10,949 --> 00:17:09,360 conversation with them you're coming 501 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:10,959 from some sort of perspective that they 502 00:17:14,949 --> 00:17:13,120 can relate to but anyway so we got chris 503 00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:14,959 blood so i got to meet him 504 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,120 and it was interesting so he was hard to 505 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:19,280 get to him he always had like guys 506 00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,360 around him right and i was thinking well 507 00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:23,360 who are these people i'm wondering i 508 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,360 don't know who they were um i heard 509 00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,360 rumors about who they were 510 00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:29,360 so finally there was a moment uh where 511 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:32,799 he was sitting in this area uh in lobby 512 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:34,480 and he was sitting there looking at his 513 00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:36,160 phone and there was nobody sitting 514 00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:37,440 around him and i thought oh my god 515 00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:38,960 here's my chance i just happened to be 516 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,160 in the lobby i'm just going to walk up 517 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:42,559 to him and sit down and say hi and start 518 00:17:46,870 --> 00:17:44,720 talking to him and so that's what i did 519 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:46,880 and and uh and so i started talking to 520 00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:48,880 him and i said hey you know i i don't 521 00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:50,799 know if you know this but uh i'm i'm 522 00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:52,880 eric i'm the awakening man i'm the guy 523 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,880 that contacted jimmy church and and 524 00:17:58,710 --> 00:17:56,240 suggested that 525 00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:58,720 he get you on your on his show and then 526 00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:00,720 oh yeah okay great nice to meet you in 527 00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:02,799 that whole thing and i said that was the 528 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:04,240 first time i've been able to like see 529 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:05,520 you where you're you don't have four 530 00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:07,440 people around you and he points over he 531 00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:08,720 goes see that guy over there he goes 532 00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:10,720 that guy's with the nsa you'll see that 533 00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:12,480 guy over there that guy's with the cia 534 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:14,160 see that guy i mean so he's telling me 535 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:16,480 that he's well he's protected they 536 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:18,000 they're they don't for whatever reason 537 00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:19,440 they feel the need 538 00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,440 to be around this guy so to me that 539 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:23,760 tells me that his story's legit 540 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:24,960 otherwise they wouldn't have these 541 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:26,160 people around them there would be no 542 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:29,520 reason for it um so anyway so we so 543 00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:32,559 we're talking and i said uh these i said 544 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:34,000 do you have i mean he's looking at his 545 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:35,520 phone he's actually scrolling through 546 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,840 his photos right and i'm kind of 547 00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:39,360 glancing over 548 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:41,600 and uh i said oh i should 549 00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:43,520 look like orbs and he goes yeah he goes 550 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:46,080 you want to see some i go absolutely 551 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:47,760 so he starts showing me these orb 552 00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:49,600 pictures that he took at his house in 553 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,520 north carolina and 554 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:53,760 first time i'd ever seen an orb 555 00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:56,080 that you can literally see the outline 556 00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:58,400 and the speeches of of 557 00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:01,600 living well of beings for example one of 558 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:04,400 the orbs you could see like a dog 559 00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:06,000 in this orb and another orb you could 560 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:08,880 see a small child's face 561 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:10,320 you can literally i mean this is not 562 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:12,240 paradola this is 563 00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:13,600 what i'll send these pictures to you 564 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,960 when i get a chance but you'll when you 565 00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:16,320 look at him you're going to say oh [\h__\h] 566 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:18,640 you're not kidding right right so he had 567 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,880 these amazing orb pictures and 568 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:22,640 any you know so we got to talk in and 569 00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:25,280 that was great and so then uh 570 00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:26,640 anyway that could go on and on and on 571 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:29,919 about that but his son ryan um i started 572 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:31,440 communicating with ryan because i was 573 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,840 kind of curious what ryan's perspective 574 00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:35,840 was and what his experiences might have 575 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:37,840 been if they were similar or whatever 576 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,880 and so i was having a little 577 00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:40,640 back-and-forth private conversation with 578 00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:41,600 him 579 00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:42,960 and um 580 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:44,160 so i'm going to be careful how i tell 581 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:45,760 this story because i don't know who 582 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,679 listens to your show there's the one 583 00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:48,880 there's uh 584 00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:51,120 the blood cells were visited by multiple 585 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,120 people from multiple agencies and some 586 00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:54,960 of the people that were visiting them 587 00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:57,440 did not want them discussing uh this 588 00:20:02,149 --> 00:19:59,360 some of their stories they wanted to 589 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:02,159 this was this was prior to 2017 you know 590 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:03,760 this disclosure 591 00:20:07,390 --> 00:20:05,760 uh to me has already happened but for 592 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:07,400 the media purposes 593 00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:10,080 2017 when the when the tic tac and all 594 00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:11,679 that stuff started coming out it seemed 595 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,360 like the veil kind of got pulled aside a 596 00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:14,960 little bit and more information now is 597 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:17,679 coming out than ever before but there 598 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,360 was still the group of people that the 599 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,360 the certain information they just don't 600 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:23,280 want the public to know yet 601 00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:25,360 um so derek's telling me uh ryan's 602 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:27,039 telling me the story 603 00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:29,200 about there was this one particular guy 604 00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:31,120 who i'll tell you off the air uh he's 605 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:32,640 been involved in these programs for a 606 00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:34,400 long time he's an older guy 607 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:36,880 and he's uh his wife and he are involved 608 00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:38,880 in these uh 609 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:40,880 well i don't want to say witchcraft but 610 00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:43,360 this these types of magic 611 00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:44,640 things yeah 612 00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:45,919 yeah okay 613 00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:49,039 and he said that um they came to visit 614 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:51,679 him and his family and uh 615 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:53,600 they brought him a gift 616 00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:56,320 and so after they left uh he opened the 617 00:21:01,750 --> 00:20:59,600 gift and inside this box was some bones 618 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:01,760 and it was he found it odd that that 619 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:04,640 this lady who's married to this high up 620 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,440 guy 621 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,919 would leave a gift of bones 622 00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:09,520 so he didn't know what it meant he 623 00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:11,360 didn't he didn't he thought it was kind 624 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:12,960 of weird he didn't this was we're 625 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,159 talking something that happened a few 626 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:17,280 years ago so he put these bones he says 627 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,799 he left him in the box and just put him 628 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:20,240 in his closet 629 00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:21,600 and left them there 630 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:24,000 but he said that he was for whatever 631 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:25,679 reason there was a certain negative 632 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,760 energy there was a certain 633 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:28,960 vibe 634 00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:31,200 uh that was going on 635 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,480 i don't want to say i don't know if it 636 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,320 was a spell or a curse i don't want to 637 00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:36,240 go there but something along the lines 638 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,559 of some sort of there was a shift 639 00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:40,799 in whatever was happening in his 640 00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:42,640 consciousness for example 641 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,440 and so so the only reason why i found 642 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:47,280 that out it was because 643 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:48,720 i had heard him talking about this 644 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:51,120 person that had been to his house and i 645 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:52,240 said look you know i've done some 646 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,200 research 647 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:54,960 this person that you're referring to 648 00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:56,559 they've been involved in these programs 649 00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,720 and i told them and i said just be 650 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:00,960 careful because uh i don't know that i 651 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:03,360 trust them for you to have your best 652 00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:05,919 interest all right and i and he said 653 00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:08,240 well that's interesting you he so just 654 00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:09,919 because i mentioned that then he told me 655 00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:12,000 the story about the bones and i said i 656 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:14,559 said you know i did some research i said 657 00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,280 those bones uh there's magic involved in 658 00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,120 this 659 00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:21,120 these are not just bones there's 660 00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,720 something tied in 661 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:24,799 to whatever the purpose of you having 662 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:27,760 these bones it has some sort of magic 663 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,799 connotation so i said you know why don't 664 00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:32,320 you try this why don't you just take the 665 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:35,120 bones out of your closet and just go 666 00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,880 either put them away or put them out in 667 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:38,640 the yard or just go bury them just get 668 00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:40,960 them out of your way just move them 669 00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:42,880 and he said okay i'll try that he 670 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,159 thought he probably thought i was a 671 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,480 little nuts but but then 672 00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,480 i think he did some research and he 673 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,320 found out that maybe i'm not nuts and 674 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:51,600 maybe what i was telling him that could 675 00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:52,720 be true 676 00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:55,120 and then like a month later he contacts 677 00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:57,039 me says he says you're not going to 678 00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:58,640 believe this but i got rid of those 679 00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:59,600 bones 680 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,600 and my life has changed like a hundred 681 00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:03,600 percent since then he says i feel much 682 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:05,919 more free i'm more happy i don't have 683 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:08,320 all this negative feelings so i don't 684 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,200 know if what i just told you it all ties 685 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:13,360 together for fact but i believe that 686 00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:15,120 there was some sort of connection there 687 00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:18,559 so so yeah spells rituals 688 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,559 you know however that works there are 689 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:22,480 people high up 690 00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:24,400 that have this knowledge about our 691 00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,720 visitation from various beings that 692 00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,559 maybe don't have the best interests of 693 00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:30,400 humanity and that's why we have this 694 00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,120 struggle with disclosure you know people 695 00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,559 why don't they just tell us we can deal 696 00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:36,720 with it but tell us aliens here tell us 697 00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,559 that ufos are real well there's there's 698 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:40,799 some very powerful people that like to 699 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,720 control things and they don't want the 700 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:44,480 information out because then it kind of 701 00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:46,000 takes away from their power and their 702 00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:47,279 control 703 00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:50,159 i agree a hundred percent and there are 704 00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:52,480 a lot of higher ups that are you know 705 00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:54,640 you hear the rumors often of elites 706 00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:55,840 practicing 707 00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,159 ancient mystery religions but you know 708 00:24:01,590 --> 00:24:00,240 when you have the cia looking into magic 709 00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:01,600 and that's i kind of want to go down 710 00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:03,600 this path because i pulled up 711 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:05,520 i can't say where i got this but this is 712 00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:07,360 magic perfectly explained in a 713 00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:10,159 declassified cia document 714 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:11,840 magic aka 715 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,960 patterning 716 00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:14,880 this technique involves use of the 717 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:17,279 consciousness to achieve desire 718 00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,960 objectives in the physical emotional and 719 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:20,559 intellectual sphere 720 00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,200 it involves concentration on the desired 721 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,000 objective while in a focus 12 state 722 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,720 extension of individuals perception of 723 00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:30,480 that objective into the whole expanded 724 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,360 consciousness and its projection into 725 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,520 the universe with the intent that the 726 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,520 desired object is already a matter of 727 00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,120 established achievement 728 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:42,000 which is destined to be realized within 729 00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:45,200 the time frame specified so it's and it 730 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,279 goes on and on and you know into 731 00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:49,600 expanded awareness and holograms and 732 00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:52,000 situational stuff but you get the idea 733 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:53,600 the government is looking into this and 734 00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,559 has pretty much agreed that yes it is a 735 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:59,039 real thing 736 00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:00,720 well you have you heard of the weird 737 00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:02,880 desk at the pentagon 738 00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:05,600 yes i've heard the rumor mill go off at 739 00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:08,480 pandolfe and yeah 740 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,039 and i believe that kit green and hal put 741 00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,720 off and i'm not saying i know that for a 742 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:14,240 fact or i can prove it or i'm trying to 743 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,400 say it is back i'm just saying that 744 00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:18,000 some of the information that i've gotten 745 00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:19,760 from people that i'm connected to that 746 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,400 have high up contacts of you know they 747 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,960 pass this down to me and i i can't prove 748 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:26,720 it to you or verify it but 749 00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,760 you know 750 00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,279 when you add when you take a puzzle and 751 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,559 you put it on the table and you start 752 00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,320 putting the pieces together at some 753 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:34,240 point you can see the picture 754 00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,840 you don't need every single piece of the 755 00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:37,360 puzzle to really figure things out 756 00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,640 sometimes you know what i'm saying 757 00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,559 absolutely yeah there's a there's a 758 00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:42,720 certain affinity that just it just kind 759 00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:43,840 of 760 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:46,080 once once you have the it's connecting 761 00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,760 the dots really you don't need the whole 762 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:49,279 puzzle and i think people that need the 763 00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,640 whole puzzle 764 00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:53,679 they just are not free thinking at all 765 00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:54,720 no 766 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,240 i think they're in fear right either 767 00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,559 they're in fear or you know there's in 768 00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,799 social media i do a lot of social media 769 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:02,559 just because sometimes i'm when i'm 770 00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:04,240 traveling around it's just i don't like 771 00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:06,159 to watch tv anymore 772 00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:07,760 so i'll just go on my social media and 773 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,679 just chat with people but there's a lot 774 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,000 of uh fearful people out there that are 775 00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:13,760 you know there's some trolls out there 776 00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:15,520 that i don't even know you know to some 777 00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:17,600 degree there might be people on uh 778 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:19,120 whether it's twitter or facebook or 779 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:21,440 whatever that that maybe they're they're 780 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:22,880 potentially they're just working for 781 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:25,440 some agency that designed this to just 782 00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,039 put negative information out there 783 00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:29,520 misinformation or disinformation but i 784 00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,120 could usually figure out pretty easily 785 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:33,200 if i'm talking like a real person or if 786 00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:34,640 i'm talking to somebody that might just 787 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,960 be trying to to kind of affect the 788 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,400 narrative and trying to get me to look 789 00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:40,080 at things from a different perspective 790 00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,679 kind of throwing me off my game so to 791 00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:43,760 speak but yeah i mean there's a lot of 792 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,400 trolls out there that uh that just where 793 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:48,320 their mindset is such that uh they don't 794 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:49,760 want to believe it 795 00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,000 they're still stuck in the in the 70s or 796 00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:54,480 in the 60s mindset of uh it's it's all 797 00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:57,600 sort of laughable it's it's ridiculous 798 00:27:01,669 --> 00:27:00,080 it can you know then what they'll do is 799 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:01,679 let's say uh let's say i told you a 800 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:03,840 story for example and maybe i misspoke 801 00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:06,400 about one aspect of the story 802 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,039 let's say out of ten aspects maybe i i 803 00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:11,520 maybe i was off on one that doesn't mean 804 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,919 the story's bad it just means that i 805 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:15,600 might have been off on just a piece of 806 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:17,440 the story so what they'll do is they'll 807 00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:18,960 take that little piece that i might have 808 00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,520 made a mistake on or whatever and then 809 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:23,279 they'll use that to try to debunk the 810 00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:24,720 whole story 811 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:26,799 yes and so i i just you know what i just 812 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,360 i just block mute but first i always 813 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:30,960 throw my first my two cents in there 814 00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,000 tell them you know you've got a long 815 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:34,159 ways to go before you're awake enough to 816 00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,000 really understand what i'm trying to 817 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:38,159 tell you and you know it's not my job to 818 00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:39,520 try to convince these people i'm not 819 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,360 really trying to convince people i just 820 00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,440 put the information out there and people 821 00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,799 either want to hear it or they want to 822 00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:46,159 get into it or they want to look into it 823 00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:47,360 or they don't and if they don't that's 824 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:51,200 cool it'll affect me any right right 825 00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,120 no it won't absolutely not and you know 826 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,440 going into the there's there's something 827 00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:59,840 about america's deserts it seems that 828 00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:00,640 these 829 00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:04,399 areas new mexico arizona utah i mean 830 00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,279 texas 831 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,120 right california it seems like the 832 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:09,600 entire desert region 833 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:11,600 is steeped in this 834 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,520 yeah the mojave i mean there's so much 835 00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,440 ufo stuff happening out there and 836 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:17,919 speaking of the mojave i have to ask you 837 00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,840 what are your thoughts um when you 838 00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:21,919 talked about aliens living underground 839 00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:25,520 aka in tunnels etc there's been a lot of 840 00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:29,039 stories like that throughout history 841 00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:33,039 yeah i mean uh i i can't uh 842 00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,880 that's that's the area that i couldn't i 843 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:36,480 wouldn't want to hang my hat on is 844 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:39,279 because i really have no evidence but 845 00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:40,720 um 846 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,640 the probability i think is greater than 847 00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:45,600 people realize and for example there's 848 00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:47,279 this lady i don't know if you recently 849 00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,799 kind of came onto the scene a few months 850 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:50,799 ago named anjali are you familiar with 851 00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:52,720 her story yeah i wanted to ask you about 852 00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:53,840 that because that's kind of where my 853 00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,640 head was going i thought so 854 00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,640 so uh her story 855 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:00,559 may or may not be totally true there may 856 00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:02,880 be aspects of it as true i 857 00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:05,120 uh it's kind of a mystery we i actually 858 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:06,880 invited her to come on our show after 859 00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,960 she'd done a few other shows and i was 860 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,559 able to kind of see what really get a 861 00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,720 view of what her position is and there's 862 00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:14,799 just something going on there that just 863 00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,559 doesn't resonate with me it doesn't mean 864 00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,159 that she's lying or that she's a 865 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:20,720 disinformation agent or i don't really 866 00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:23,360 know what's happening but i do know this 867 00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,000 that if if i had a story like that that 868 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,080 that i met some guy in a coffee shop and 869 00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,480 he agreed to take me to his house in the 870 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,720 mojave desert and and i took me into a 871 00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,279 cave where there was aliens okay and i 872 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,600 was gonna go public with that story 873 00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:39,520 i would i would want to make sure that 874 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,399 that it was 875 00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,000 so truthful that i would be willing to 876 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:44,240 answer any question that anybody would 877 00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:46,960 have for me and for whatever reason she 878 00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:49,360 chooses to avoid certain people 879 00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:52,399 uh my perception is that like if i were 880 00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:54,159 to have a conversation with her i would 881 00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,840 know the questions to ask to get down to 882 00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:57,120 the bottom of it 883 00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,720 but she won't have that conversation 884 00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,399 with me so that tells me that 885 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,840 something's not right because if you're 886 00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:03,279 really trying to promote a story and you 887 00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,640 believe it to be true and you're selling 888 00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:06,240 it to be true then you should be willing 889 00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,080 to have a conversation with anybody and 890 00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:10,159 she knows i'm not a debunker i'm not a 891 00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:12,640 skeptic i'm i'm more on that i'm more on 892 00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:15,120 her side i want to believe the story but 893 00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,880 but i'm looking for a reason to believe 894 00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:19,200 it and right now i can't find a reason 895 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:20,960 but with that said 896 00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,640 if you go back in the day where charles 897 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:24,159 hall he's written five books about the 898 00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:25,760 tall whites when he was working at the 899 00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,640 uh out there in uh not in groom lake but 900 00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:30,080 you know i'm talking about somewhere in 901 00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:31,520 nevada out there in the desert i forget 902 00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:34,399 where the the location was but right 903 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:36,159 recently i was you know you our friend 904 00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,600 jeff rennell and i were camping out 905 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,679 there not too far from 906 00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:41,520 from the area where uh 907 00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:44,000 where charles hall worked in the 60s and 908 00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:45,760 said that these tall white beings would 909 00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,679 show and and they had craft in the whole 910 00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:49,919 nine yards we were just hoping for any 911 00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,159 possibility to get any kind of 912 00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:54,080 uh you know experience that might 913 00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:56,240 potentially give us a reason to want to 914 00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:58,720 validate that story and we did have some 915 00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,399 experiences out there that were all 916 00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:02,320 going to that real quick i think i might 917 00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:03,360 have told you the story but your 918 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,279 audience hasn't heard it um so jeff 919 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,799 bernal we're out there we spent i think 920 00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:08,960 three nights or two nights out there but 921 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,000 um 922 00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:12,480 we were hearing some very strange sounds 923 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:15,039 coming from what sounded like uh the 924 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:16,880 mountain range uh in other words we're 925 00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:18,640 on one side of the mountain we were 926 00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:20,720 legally allowed to be there but on the 927 00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,000 other side of the mountain that's where 928 00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:24,720 groom lake was area 51 i mean we were 929 00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:25,760 probably 930 00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:28,000 like two miles if you were as the cro as 931 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,720 the crow flies away from groom lake 932 00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:32,640 and so we were hearing these sounds 933 00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:35,440 coming which sounded like in that area 934 00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:37,120 and we couldn't tell what they were i 935 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,559 mean at first we thought maybe there 936 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:40,720 were helicopters but then they were just 937 00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:41,840 they were too 938 00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,399 powerful and loud and thunderous and 939 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,799 they had an intermittent kind of a sound 940 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,440 so we both decided that now those skills 941 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,600 can't be uh helicopters 942 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:53,200 and uh 943 00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:54,960 and then jeff says that the ground was 944 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:57,760 shaking so i thought this is strange you 945 00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:59,279 know i've heard these stories about 946 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,600 tunnels under the ground and i believe 947 00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:03,440 that that we do have tunnels under the 948 00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:05,039 ground i believe that 949 00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,080 um 950 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,640 so fast forwarding i shared that story 951 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,559 with dodie uh on our interview when we 952 00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:12,880 did altered uh through about three or 953 00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,000 four weeks ago and and he told me that 954 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:18,640 uh there they do have tunnels there and 955 00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,760 one of them 956 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:21,440 i think he said he's been in that's like 957 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:23,519 77 miles long 958 00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,559 and he said that what we probably heard 959 00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:28,559 was the boring machines that they've got 960 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:29,919 underground that when they're when 961 00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:32,080 they're expanding these tunnels and that 962 00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:33,600 right away they're just ding ding ding 963 00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:35,600 that that that made sense to me because 964 00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:37,039 it was the ground was shaking it was a 965 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:39,679 powerful like earthquakey kind of noise 966 00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:40,720 coming out 967 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,559 so that was kind of cool to experience 968 00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,480 that because i've heard stories about 969 00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:46,480 these things but to be there and 970 00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:48,880 experience the the sound and the 971 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:51,360 so that kind of doesn't make it 100 972 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:52,880 true but it makes me believe that it 973 00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:55,200 probably is true so then this part 974 00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,039 really tripped me out actually 975 00:33:02,310 --> 00:32:59,200 so we've got helicopters 976 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:02,320 uh with flying around uh in the morning 977 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:05,200 not around us directly but around us to 978 00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:06,640 the right and to the left we've got 979 00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,240 planes you could see them flying over 980 00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,399 groom lake over the mountain uh not 981 00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:12,080 coming into the area where we were but 982 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,399 we could clearly see them uh different 983 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,600 planes 984 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,440 and then and then uh 985 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:19,440 and then that's when it became dark 986 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:20,880 we could hear them 987 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:22,720 but we couldn't see them and they had no 988 00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,240 lights on and i thought this was 989 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,159 interesting we've got planes we've got 990 00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:28,320 helicopters flying around we can't see 991 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:30,320 them and they've got no lights on but 992 00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:31,120 they 993 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,159 um so i thought that was interesting 994 00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:42,080 though so just to be around there and 995 00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:43,039 see that 996 00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,480 that this is they're they're doing a lot 997 00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,000 of training out there i can assure you 998 00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,559 that um like one after another i mean we 999 00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,320 could for every five minutes 1000 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:52,799 there's like one coming by the the area 1001 00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,760 within earshot and you know so then the 1002 00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,679 next morning comes it's about 10 o'clock 1003 00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:58,880 in the morning 1004 00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,039 and beautiful clear sky there's not a 1005 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:02,880 sound out there by the way not not 1006 00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:05,120 literally no sound 1007 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:07,600 um and then this mess we're seeing these 1008 00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:09,599 planes kind of flying over the groom 1009 00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,200 lake area above the mountain range so 1010 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,040 you can you can see them and they're 1011 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:15,280 just standard looking planes they didn't 1012 00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:16,480 they could have i don't know what type 1013 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:17,679 of planes they were i'm not a plane 1014 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:18,800 expert 1015 00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:20,800 but then 1016 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:22,639 here comes this plane 1017 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:25,679 rises up it was massive 1018 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:26,560 and 1019 00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:29,280 uh i think jeff thought it was like a b 1020 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:31,919 52 or something it was just huge it was 1021 00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,560 it was massive and and here it is it 1022 00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:35,919 it's flying 1023 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,679 and i've got my cell phone in my hand 1024 00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:39,520 and just got his cell phone in my hand 1025 00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,919 and we both click on video and we're 1026 00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:43,520 we're trying we've got our i mean this 1027 00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:46,000 thing was literally no more than a mile 1028 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,399 from us in the sky it was very close 1029 00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,720 and i'm right there i'm recording but 1030 00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:52,879 there's nothing showing up on my screen 1031 00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,119 on my on my phone i've got a brand new 1032 00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,839 samsung galaxy s21 the sims killer it's 1033 00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:59,520 just like well i can't see anything like 1034 00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:00,800 i could see it with my eyes but my 1035 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:02,320 phone's not picking up i know this is 1036 00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:05,280 weird what's going on so here it goes by 1037 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,040 and then it makes a circle around and 1038 00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:09,440 then now it's flying almost over the top 1039 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,359 of us i mean this thing had at this 1040 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:12,800 point it was about a quarter mile away 1041 00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:15,200 was it was really low to the ground 1042 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:17,280 and again i'm like try to take pictures 1043 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,800 of this thing and it's not showing up on 1044 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:19,920 my screen 1045 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,520 and so i was tripping on that i'm like 1046 00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:23,040 what the heck cause i might why is this 1047 00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:24,240 happening 1048 00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,079 so i told somebody about that and they 1049 00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:27,839 said that they've got this shielding 1050 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:29,280 technology 1051 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,880 and i thought that's interesting maybe 1052 00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:33,280 that's true so i ran this by dodie i 1053 00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:34,720 said you know i told him the experience 1054 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:37,280 i said this is what happened 1055 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:39,520 he said uh 1056 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:40,800 i got to be careful i don't know if i'm 1057 00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,800 supposed to 1058 00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:44,800 he said that uh well it's a little more 1059 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,680 than fielding he says they've got like a 1060 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,400 holographic technology so 1061 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,560 so that explained it that made sense to 1062 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,760 me because 1063 00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:55,680 if it maybe there is a holographic 1064 00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,680 technology where they can make it look 1065 00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:59,839 like it's completely real and it's right 1066 00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,800 there 1067 00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:03,200 but if it doesn't show up on camera or 1068 00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:04,400 film 1069 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:07,280 but it that it looks real 1070 00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:08,240 so 1071 00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,680 that whether that's true or not i don't 1072 00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,119 know i don't think he would just make 1073 00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,599 that up to pacify my thoughts but that's 1074 00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:14,800 what he said 1075 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:18,000 man and you know i can't just from my 1076 00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:20,160 own personal experiences you know where 1077 00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:24,320 i live and yeah i see the i see the uh 1078 00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:27,200 janet jets um that go to and from area 1079 00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,079 51 they go right over la madre here 1080 00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:32,560 and um you see them going every day and 1081 00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:33,920 coming every day and 1082 00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,200 you know pretty 1083 00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:36,960 straight line trajectory but i'll tell 1084 00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:38,000 you what 1085 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:40,960 at night most evenings i can't say all 1086 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:45,040 evenings but at night at about 10 30 p.m 1087 00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,280 there is such a thunderous aircraft that 1088 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:49,599 goes over this area and 1089 00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,240 i've jumped on my back balcony front 1090 00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:55,040 balcony trying to see it you can never 1091 00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:56,880 make it out you can never see anything 1092 00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,240 in the sky and it sounds like it's 1093 00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:59,920 directly over you 1094 00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:02,160 and i wonder if this technology doesn't 1095 00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:05,359 exist i mean you read uh into some 1096 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:06,640 literature 1097 00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,400 talking about some of these companies 1098 00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:10,800 that have done testing out at area 51 1099 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,800 and others that are just publicly traded 1100 00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:13,920 companies 1101 00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:16,079 and they're looking into you know 1102 00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:18,640 cloaking technology this is a real 1103 00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:21,280 military thing it's not it's you know it 1104 00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:23,680 makes sense in the field 1105 00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:25,920 yeah and here's the thing uh just we 1106 00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:28,240 won't go into 911 but uh you know 1107 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:29,839 there's all sorts of theories about what 1108 00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:31,520 happened in 9 11. 1109 00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:34,640 um i would personally not be surprised 1110 00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:37,280 if what people saw on tv when they were 1111 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,480 watching this 1112 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,240 be replayed 1113 00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,400 that that could have been a cloaking 1114 00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:44,880 technology that looked as if and i'm not 1115 00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,160 saying this is what happened and this is 1116 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,560 not my theory but i wouldn't i wouldn't 1117 00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:50,400 discount the possibility 1118 00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,800 that that what what the planes didn't 1119 00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,720 actually crash into that building 1120 00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:56,000 because if you really do all the 1121 00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:57,440 research on it 1122 00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,119 it the building shouldn't come down from 1123 00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:01,520 a plane crashing and lava and steel 1124 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,920 beings shouldn't melt like that i mean i 1125 00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:05,440 think there was more to that story but 1126 00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:06,800 then what really kind of makes me kind 1127 00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,079 of nervous 1128 00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:11,119 a little bit is what uh berner von braun 1129 00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,560 said to uh 1130 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:15,359 to uh carol rosenberg back in the day at 1131 00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,440 nasa about you know the last card 1132 00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,200 they're going to play is the fake alien 1133 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:20,880 invasion 1134 00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:22,880 yes you've heard about that right so so 1135 00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:25,520 if they have this cloaking technology 1136 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:26,880 and they have all this technical this 1137 00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:29,040 other let's just say hypothetically that 1138 00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:31,359 there there is some sort of master plan 1139 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:32,960 which i'm not sure i believe that to be 1140 00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,960 true but let's just say there is 1141 00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:37,040 uh they certainly have the technology to 1142 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:38,880 make people think 1143 00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,200 that there's alien spaceships in the sky 1144 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,280 i really believe so that part of this 1145 00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:44,880 what's happening with disclosure now 1146 00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:47,040 with all this kickback and this that and 1147 00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:47,920 the other 1148 00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,839 so why all of a sudden is the government 1149 00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,599 and are people that were affiliated with 1150 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,599 the government and the news that they 1151 00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:55,839 were quiet about this for you know 67 1152 00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:57,760 years so to speak and now they're just 1153 00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:59,920 promoting this information 1154 00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,079 but they really they i don't really 1155 00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,079 think that they care about humans they 1156 00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,240 want us to know this it's just a setup 1157 00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,640 are we being set up i wonder about that 1158 00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,800 what do you think yeah i think it's you 1159 00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:12,640 got to follow the money and these black 1160 00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:15,119 budgets are huge these black budgets 1161 00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:17,359 they matter they are huge 1162 00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:21,040 and they uh nobody nobody questions what 1163 00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,720 they're doing and this is exactly where 1164 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,960 this type of technology would be 1165 00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:26,160 budgeted 1166 00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:27,119 because 1167 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:30,079 it is you know it just is the objective 1168 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,520 and 1169 00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,880 that that's what you got to follow is 1170 00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:34,720 the objective and i think you know even 1171 00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,839 now even 1172 00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:37,599 you go to sporting events and they have 1173 00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:40,320 these drone swarms that 1174 00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:43,280 i mean just those can can mimic 1175 00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:45,760 you know just about anything so 1176 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,599 you know that is fairly 1177 00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,000 ordinary technology compared to what is 1178 00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:54,240 actually at least we trust what is 1179 00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,440 actually being utilized by our military 1180 00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,599 right and coming back i hate to come 1181 00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:01,359 back around but i have to with the rick 1182 00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,480 doty connection the tunnels underground 1183 00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,280 you know that's something that 1184 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,280 it's amazing because others have 1185 00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:11,680 testified to the same thing uh 1186 00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,000 gabe valdez not and this is a strange 1187 00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,560 connection because it ties back to 1188 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:19,040 um the dulce bass and 1189 00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:20,560 yeah and uh 1190 00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,280 and 1191 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:23,680 gabe valdez you're talking about 1192 00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,640 yeah he would often say that he had seen 1193 00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:28,400 these tunnels and seen the vents and 1194 00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,240 seen these things and he was a very 1195 00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:32,720 trusted individual in the community so i 1196 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,680 don't know why it would be such a uh 1197 00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,440 such a stretch to believe something like 1198 00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:38,400 that 1199 00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:42,480 2018 they have the dolce bass ufo 1200 00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,240 conference and uh 1201 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,920 i went there it was my first time in new 1202 00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:48,000 mexico and i drove out there and uh it 1203 00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:50,240 was a guy in texas the uh the alien 1204 00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,720 hunter with the cap on i forget his name 1205 00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:54,560 i'm talking about though 1206 00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,800 daryl sims yeah 1207 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,640 pardon me what's his name daryl sims i 1208 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,720 think yeah darrell stems 1209 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,640 he's like what a character i love that 1210 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:04,640 guy i love talking to him and he openly 1211 00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:06,960 admits he says at one time he worked 1212 00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:09,200 briefly for the cia 1213 00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,200 you probably know that but uh and i'm 1214 00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,359 not accusing him of being a contractor 1215 00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:15,119 for the cia now because i don't have any 1216 00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,640 evidence of that but 1217 00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:18,640 i do know based on other research i've 1218 00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:21,119 done that for whatever reason he's 1219 00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:22,480 whether it's his choice or he's been 1220 00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,400 assigned to collect these implants i 1221 00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,240 mean that people claim to get in their 1222 00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:28,400 bodies and i believe that that's to be 1223 00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:30,079 true i think that 1224 00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:32,720 i think there's probably a human faction 1225 00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,640 that they call the my lab abduction the 1226 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:36,720 military abduction where they are for 1227 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,640 whatever reason choosing to take certain 1228 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,800 people and and put these little tracking 1229 00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,720 devices in them for what agenda i'm not 1230 00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,640 sure about but i also believe that 1231 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,119 there's a non-human entities 1232 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:49,040 uh maybe they're tracking their hybrids 1233 00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:50,400 or their bloodlines i mean i'm going 1234 00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,640 into the wool now but i'm just saying i 1235 00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,560 i don't discount these possibilities 1236 00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:56,960 that uh but he's you know he's collected 1237 00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,880 these implants i've seen him i saw him 1238 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:00,480 at the conference and so they had this 1239 00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:03,280 town hall meeting uh the day before the 1240 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:05,680 conference started in in the uh and 1241 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,960 actually in the courtroom there and 1242 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,160 they'll see new mexico because they 1243 00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:09,680 didn't have a big place like an 1244 00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,560 auditorium and all the locals they came 1245 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:14,240 the indians that lived there in the area 1246 00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,599 they came and they said there was like 1247 00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,760 100 of them in there and and they were 1248 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,599 telling their stories you know and and i 1249 00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:21,760 was recording with my ipad like i always 1250 00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,480 do 1251 00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,800 and this during the break this lady came 1252 00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:26,560 up to me and said you know 1253 00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,440 um 1254 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,280 they wouldn't actually tell me like they 1255 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:31,200 wouldn't the locals are very humble 1256 00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,560 people they're not going to come up to 1257 00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:34,160 me and say you know turn that off please 1258 00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,599 don't record me 1259 00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,680 uh they just kind of keep to themselves 1260 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,440 but somebody came and said hey you know 1261 00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,599 what if you i think if you would just 1262 00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,599 just turn that off and just let people 1263 00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:45,200 talk that that would be a good idea and 1264 00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:46,880 i said yeah okay fine i'm down with that 1265 00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:49,200 so i set it down and then these people 1266 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,640 started coming out of the audience and 1267 00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:52,480 standing on the stage and this one 1268 00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:54,000 little lady she was about four foot 1269 00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,680 eight little indian lady 1270 00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:57,440 uh was telling me stories about the 1271 00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:00,560 bigfoot on our property and about the uh 1272 00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,480 about the uh ufos and the cattle 1273 00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:04,560 mutilations and so i heard all these 1274 00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,800 stories from the locals 1275 00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,640 that that were happening in the day and 1276 00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,480 still happening and then uh 1277 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,480 so i was like okay cool this is to me 1278 00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:14,160 that's confirmation i i just saw no 1279 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,839 there's no agenda these people were not 1280 00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:17,040 getting paid to get up there and tell 1281 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,319 these stories 1282 00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:20,480 and and so then i was so during a break 1283 00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,560 during the conference there was an an 1284 00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,319 indian tribal girl that was working at 1285 00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,160 the casino there and she was a security 1286 00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,400 person and i just you know went and sat 1287 00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:30,000 next to her and just was i'm just going 1288 00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:31,280 to pick her marine a little bit and see 1289 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,520 what she thinks about all this ufo stuff 1290 00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,200 and i started talking to her and i said 1291 00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:36,720 you know i says you know you know the 1292 00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,880 story about your your your place here 1293 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,319 that they'll say mountain right there i 1294 00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,640 says you know people say that there's 1295 00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,480 bases and so on and so forth i said well 1296 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:46,079 dude what do you think and she says well 1297 00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,200 one time 1298 00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:49,280 my boyfriend and i we were because you 1299 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:51,280 know unless you're on the rez and you're 1300 00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:52,640 allowed to be there you know white 1301 00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:54,000 people i don't know i'm just 1302 00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:55,920 generalizing if you're not a native and 1303 00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:57,440 you're not allowed to be on the land you 1304 00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,720 don't unless you have permission you 1305 00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,560 don't get to just walk around up there 1306 00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,160 right no 1307 00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:03,760 yeah so anyway she said that they were 1308 00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:06,319 walking around in this area 1309 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:09,200 and they found this like cabin up 1310 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:11,200 you know wherever it was this little 1311 00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,720 cabin up there 1312 00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,480 and uh you know they were able to peek 1313 00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:16,319 in the window and 1314 00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,119 um 1315 00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:18,800 and i could i can only speculate why 1316 00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:20,560 that was there but they they did see 1317 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,480 like a vent and she she was not willing 1318 00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,240 to tell me a whole lot 1319 00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:28,079 but but she led me but she gave me 1320 00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,240 enough information to lead me to think 1321 00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:32,079 that there might be information about 1322 00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,359 these stories 1323 00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:35,599 that could be true but the natives are 1324 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:37,680 never going to talk about it 1325 00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:40,400 that's the great thing that's the thing 1326 00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:42,079 yeah 1327 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,680 so how do you verify it you know and 1328 00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:45,839 then uh i hope those stories aren't true 1329 00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:48,000 i hope they don't have humans down there 1330 00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,440 and they're in by and then they got you 1331 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,280 know people in these cages and things 1332 00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,800 like that and you you know i heard these 1333 00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,560 stories of david wilcock who i'm not a 1334 00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:56,640 fan of and i i think he's selling fear 1335 00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:59,200 porn for 333 dollars which is ridiculous 1336 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:00,480 telling you know the greys and the 1337 00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,000 reptilians are eating humans at the 1338 00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,520 border and when they come over from 1339 00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:06,000 mexico and and this is terrible and you 1340 00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:07,760 know i just i i'm not going to go there 1341 00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:09,520 i think that's that's a little bit far 1342 00:45:13,589 --> 00:45:11,599 fetched and and i i don't think that 1343 00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:13,599 that's cool that you try to make money 1344 00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,280 off selling fear porn so i'm just trying 1345 00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:17,520 to tell you stories that i've heard and 1346 00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:18,800 the possibilities of some of these 1347 00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:20,319 stories being true is probably greater 1348 00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:22,000 than people realize 1349 00:45:26,970 --> 00:45:24,960 absolutely it's it i think there there's 1350 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:26,980 a lot of truth to that and um 1351 00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,160 [Music] 1352 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,800 going down those lines i've i've 1353 00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,560 i've spoken with people and this is 1354 00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:34,400 where you have to connect the dots 1355 00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,520 yeah i've spoken with like hvac uh this 1356 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:39,520 is through a mutual friend a guy that's 1357 00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:42,240 not into anything fringe 1358 00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:44,720 and his friend is not into anything 1359 00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,760 fringe i'm i'm the one that is and 1360 00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:49,359 speaking with these guys this guy said 1361 00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,960 hey you should really hear my friend's 1362 00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,160 story 1363 00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:54,800 about what he had happened to him out in 1364 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,520 san diego underground under the base he 1365 00:46:02,790 --> 00:45:59,599 got called out to 1366 00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:02,800 to work on uh some hvac stuff out there 1367 00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,520 and 1368 00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:05,359 after going down i forget how many 1369 00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:06,880 levels it was something like it was a 1370 00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:07,760 lot 1371 00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:08,720 um 1372 00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:10,079 i don't want to miss 1373 00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:11,440 miss count so i'm just going to say it's 1374 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,880 a lot of levels 1375 00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:15,599 and he said that he saw 1376 00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,079 organs like human 1377 00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,560 appendages organs and possibly even 1378 00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:22,160 entire people 1379 00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,560 in these bubbling containers 1380 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:27,359 and you know they they said just don't 1381 00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:30,720 look over there and um after analyzing 1382 00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:32,560 the situation his boss decided not to 1383 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,839 take the job because there were some 1384 00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:35,280 venting issues and said that there could 1385 00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:36,480 be some 1386 00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:37,599 some 1387 00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:40,000 flammable problems and it another 1388 00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,520 contractor actually took the job and i 1389 00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,040 guess they did have a fire trying to 1390 00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,560 clean these vents out but what are in 1391 00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:46,319 these vents i don't know the things this 1392 00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,680 guy was saying 1393 00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:50,000 freaked me out and 1394 00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,960 yet 1395 00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:52,800 you know it's not he's not coming like 1396 00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:54,319 he said he doesn't have a buck to make 1397 00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:55,920 he doesn't have an agenda there's no 1398 00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,280 objective here 1399 00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,359 and he's just openly telling me 1400 00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,599 something that he doesn't really want to 1401 00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:03,599 publicize so 1402 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:06,720 when that happens you have to wonder you 1403 00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:09,760 know it's it's only 1404 00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,280 you know it would be second nature for 1405 00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:13,599 our military to go down every rabbit 1406 00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:15,760 hole to get some kind of advantage 1407 00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,040 against uh possible enemies 1408 00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,599 well and then uh there's one guy on that 1409 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:24,000 i've been chatting with on social media 1410 00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,520 for a while actually interviewed him a 1411 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,119 couple years ago 1412 00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,520 and you know and you've heard this story 1413 00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,880 before i'm sure 1414 00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,000 uh 1415 00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:34,559 he he won't let me meet him in person he 1416 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,720 won't really even let me research his 1417 00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,480 background 1418 00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:40,000 i think he's just kind of leaking stuff 1419 00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,599 to me and i i don't think 1420 00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:43,119 he doesn't strike me as just some guy 1421 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:44,800 that's got nothing better to do but just 1422 00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:47,040 put out information to get me to spin my 1423 00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,240 head around but but what he says 1424 00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:52,000 it's kind of far fetched but i'm not 1425 00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:54,000 going to rule out that there could be uh 1426 00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:56,319 non-human entities working 1427 00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,119 with 1428 00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,440 aspects of the military industrial 1429 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,920 complex in these facilities 1430 00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:03,839 and i know it sounds crazy but i would 1431 00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:05,440 not rule that out 1432 00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,960 right 1433 00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:08,480 i wouldn't rule it out 1434 00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:10,000 no that's not beer porn i'm not trying 1435 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:11,520 to scare anybody i mean whatever's 1436 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,960 happening you and i are not going to be 1437 00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,800 able to do anything about it we still 1438 00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,880 got to live our lives you know what we 1439 00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,800 you know we got family whatever we we 1440 00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,400 can't just sit home and trip about all 1441 00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,480 this stuff i i still gonna go out and do 1442 00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,760 my thing and 1443 00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:25,520 live every minute of every day as best i 1444 00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:28,000 can and try to be happy and positive and 1445 00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,359 and you know then you come across 1446 00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:31,119 certain people that are maybe they're 1447 00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,720 interested in learning more but you know 1448 00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,640 you got to kind of be careful 1449 00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:36,160 some people get freaked out by this 1450 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,520 stuff 1451 00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,520 they really do and you can go too deep 1452 00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,040 down the rabbit hole i mean there is a 1453 00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,119 real world that we all have to engage in 1454 00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:45,440 no matter how false that real world is 1455 00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,880 but that's what i like about it when you 1456 00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:48,800 look at least open-mindedly at these 1457 00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:50,559 things you get to see a bigger picture 1458 00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:51,920 of the real world it becomes more 1459 00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,760 colorful more unique 1460 00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,200 and more more 1461 00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,839 more relatable at least in my opinion to 1462 00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:59,680 um kind of put your head in the sand and 1463 00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,119 think that none of these things can 1464 00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,200 happen is 1465 00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,680 very it's very civil and you know for a 1466 00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:07,520 civilian to do that and not pay 1467 00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,520 attention and just be in their own lane 1468 00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,599 but it's also monotonous robotic and 1469 00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:14,000 it's not very human-like so i think 1470 00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:15,760 philosophically people have always kind 1471 00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,400 of wanted to know more and i think that 1472 00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:20,400 yeah the military 1473 00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,040 has always found that they need to know 1474 00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,520 more than the average individual and you 1475 00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,119 no matter what part of the military you 1476 00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,200 talk to you can talk to anybody 1477 00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:31,599 there's a point where they stop talking 1478 00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:35,119 because it's sensitive material and i 1479 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:38,240 think that this uh obviously this uap 1480 00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:39,520 phenomena 1481 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,800 ufo 1482 00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:42,880 type 1483 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,599 genre is is one of those areas where the 1484 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,680 mouths stay closed a little bit quicker 1485 00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:50,160 than some of the other areas it doesn't 1486 00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:52,000 matter what part of the military or 1487 00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,359 anybody in the 1488 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,880 the deep 1489 00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,960 knowledge arena they there's a point 1490 00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,880 where they stop talking 1491 00:50:01,589 --> 00:50:00,240 right right 1492 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:01,599 you know and i'll tell you when when i 1493 00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:03,760 first heard that term uap 1494 00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:06,800 uh my first initial initial 1495 00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:08,720 thought was oh they're just trying to 1496 00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,400 you know take change the narrative and 1497 00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,720 so they can control it 1498 00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,400 but then i started thinking about it i 1499 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:16,240 thought okay so we've got ufos 1500 00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:19,520 unidentified flying objects which could 1501 00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:22,160 be ours or could be theirs that's a fact 1502 00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,000 in my opinion or then when you talk 1503 00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:27,359 about unidentified aerial phenomena 1504 00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,319 now 1505 00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:30,640 what i think we're talking about is what 1506 00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:32,960 what we call orbs and you've seen them 1507 00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,599 yes i've seen them i've filmed them 1508 00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:37,200 i know they're real i've seen them more 1509 00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:38,319 than once 1510 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,839 and i don't they're not they don't look 1511 00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,680 like a structured craft to me they're 1512 00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:43,520 just like balls of light i don't know 1513 00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:45,440 what's in these balls of light or if 1514 00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:48,319 they can manifest into a craft or not i 1515 00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,079 just know that they don't look like any 1516 00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,319 kind of structured vehicle but they're 1517 00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:54,240 real i've seen them i've seen one in the 1518 00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:57,200 mojave desert in the daylight 1519 00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:59,440 40 foot around 100 yards away i saw it 1520 00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:00,960 for five seconds as soon as i tried to 1521 00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,440 take a picture of it it just blinked off 1522 00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:05,680 it was it didn't fly away it just 1523 00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:07,280 vanished right in front of my eyes and 1524 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,359 it was i wish to god i could have taken 1525 00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:11,440 a picture because you know sometimes you 1526 00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:13,520 see things and you can get a shot of it 1527 00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,720 and sometimes they're good shots 1528 00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,559 sometimes they're not but when you have 1529 00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,559 a story that you that kind of affects 1530 00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,559 you permanently in your consciousness 1531 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:22,480 and you can't prove it to somebody then 1532 00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:23,680 it's like okay you know they're either 1533 00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:24,800 going to believe you they're not you 1534 00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,839 know i can't i'm not going to try to 1535 00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:27,359 convince everybody i'll just tell the 1536 00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:28,240 story 1537 00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:29,760 but uh yeah i mean i've been seeing 1538 00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:31,920 strange stuff for right john paul told 1539 00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:34,160 me five years ago on a phone call after 1540 00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:35,680 i first started trying to look into this 1541 00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,160 a little more deeply he said you know uh 1542 00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:39,680 i don't know how he knew this or why he 1543 00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:41,200 believed it but he says you're gonna 1544 00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:44,319 start seeing ufos and i laughed i said i 1545 00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:45,599 said how would you know that and why 1546 00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:47,200 would you say that i mean i mean you 1547 00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:48,480 just because we had a five hour 1548 00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,839 conversation you think suddenly i'm 1549 00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:51,440 awake and i'm gonna start seeing ufos 1550 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:53,040 i'm thinking about that that sounds 1551 00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,280 crazy to me but he was right i did 1552 00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:57,119 literally start seeing ufos i saw like 1553 00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,640 two of them within a period of two weeks 1554 00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,400 right in my area where i lived and i've 1555 00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,240 never seen them before ever i don't know 1556 00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,400 why that happened 1557 00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,079 so yeah i mean if people is i think 1558 00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,920 that's where consciousness comes in i i 1559 00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:09,760 believe that uh 1560 00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:11,920 you know consciousness is vast i mean 1561 00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,599 you know your experience that you have 1562 00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,920 as a human being living on this earth 1563 00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,680 and observing 1564 00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:20,319 uh can be affected by where your mindset 1565 00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:22,880 is and how open and receptive you are to 1566 00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,359 the possibilities of reality and the 1567 00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,359 multiple realities and the mo you know i 1568 00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:29,359 don't know anything about dimensions but 1569 00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:31,280 one analogy i could give you is if you 1570 00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:32,960 can get a hold of a pair of night vision 1571 00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:35,200 binoculars or goggles for example you 1572 00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:37,359 can look in the sky and you could see 1573 00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:39,760 objects in the sky 1574 00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,640 that are bright and alive moving that 1575 00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:44,559 you will not see with your naked eye so 1576 00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,640 that's a technology that we have that 1577 00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:48,240 confirms that there's something in the 1578 00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,920 sky i don't know what it is that you 1579 00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,920 can't see with the naked eye so maybe 1580 00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:53,839 that's how dimensions work maybe there's 1581 00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,559 things right in our general area that 1582 00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:58,800 that's right here that we can't see for 1583 00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:00,079 whatever reason i don't know how the 1584 00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,800 physics works on all that but but these 1585 00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,559 whatever it is this intelligent uh 1586 00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,319 consciousness that's able to kind of 1587 00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:08,480 manifest materialize and then 1588 00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,720 de-materialize like that story you told 1589 00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,319 me that you had uh out there at the near 1590 00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:14,079 the skinwalker ranch when that the wolf 1591 00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,520 and that porcupine showed up i told 1592 00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,000 dodie that story his mouth his jaw 1593 00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:19,920 dropped to the ground 1594 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:20,960 you know i wish i could have taken a 1595 00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:23,280 picture i go i go dodie i could i could 1596 00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:24,640 probably make arrangements you can come 1597 00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:32,630 yeah it is it's a real thing and it's uh 1598 00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,119 it does seem like there is especially 1599 00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:37,119 with quantum physics getting into this 1600 00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,079 stuff 1601 00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:40,400 and there seems to be more than the 1602 00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:42,160 human eye can see and like you said with 1603 00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:44,319 a little help and this is not hard to do 1604 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:46,160 anybody can do it like you said 1605 00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:48,160 and it's just about anywhere even major 1606 00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:51,760 urban centers so it's very interesting 1607 00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,559 before we wrap up here eric let's tell 1608 00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:57,119 listeners again about your podcast 1609 00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:58,800 where they can listen to you and keep up 1610 00:54:01,349 --> 00:54:00,000 with everything you're doing and then 1611 00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:01,359 we'll kind of wrap up with some more 1612 00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:02,319 stuff 1613 00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,400 so yeah if you go on social media it's 1614 00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:07,280 eric awakening man if you do facebook 1615 00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:09,680 it's eric e ric 1616 00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:12,160 jensen j i h n s o n you'll see a 1617 00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:13,680 picture of a cat 1618 00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:16,319 beautiful cat um so i've got multiple 1619 00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:17,760 identities 1620 00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:20,880 just to be honest i i don't really i'm 1621 00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:22,960 kind of a low profile kind of guy you're 1622 00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:24,319 actually i've only done maybe two 1623 00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,319 interviews or you're one of the few that 1624 00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:28,079 i've ever done because i i like you and 1625 00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:29,920 i trust you and i know you're i believe 1626 00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:31,760 you're on the same path i am so i feel 1627 00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:33,920 and i've spoken very openly today where 1628 00:54:37,829 --> 00:54:36,079 i normally probably wouldn't say a lot 1629 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:37,839 of the things i told you i probably 1630 00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:39,119 wouldn't tell a lot of people just 1631 00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:40,480 because they're going to think i'm a 1632 00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:41,520 yahoo 1633 00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:43,359 so that's or if you go to if you go to 1634 00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:46,799 youtube you type in uh altered it's the 1635 00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:50,839 uh with vinnie cosis v-e-n-n-i-e 1636 00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,000 k-o-c-s-i-s uh we've done three shows uh 1637 00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:56,240 we did a show with um 1638 00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,000 we did our first show which is her and i 1639 00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:00,240 talking about why we're doing this show 1640 00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:02,000 then the second uh show was with rick 1641 00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,079 doty which was we've got over 1100 views 1642 00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:05,920 in like two weeks on that one we've only 1643 00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,079 got 250 subscribers we just started so 1644 00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,559 we don't have a huge audience yet and 1645 00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:12,000 then the third show we did with this 1646 00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:14,799 lady named annie uh from utah who is a 1647 00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:17,040 mo uh experiences with has experiences 1648 00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:20,240 with multiple et's including the mantis 1649 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:21,680 he's been told 1650 00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:24,160 uh that he was a mantis in a past life 1651 00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:25,760 and that's a fascinating interview and 1652 00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,480 we try to keep him to about 75 or 90 1653 00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,640 minutes with no commercials 1654 00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,440 no like i say no commercials no fluff we 1655 00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:35,520 just go right at it we get as much 1656 00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:37,040 detail as we can out of the out of the 1657 00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,559 story and then we just leave it kind of 1658 00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,319 like you do with your show we just want 1659 00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,760 to get but people don't want to spend 1660 00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:43,440 three hours here and you know two hours 1661 00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:46,160 of bs and one hour of some good stuff so 1662 00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:48,079 we just want to give them good stuff and 1663 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:49,599 then if they want to look into it they 1664 00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:52,000 can and if you know whatever i i'm just 1665 00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:53,920 like you i'm trying to put out content 1666 00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,160 because i think it's interesting and and 1667 00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:58,000 i look for content that i can personally 1668 00:56:02,230 --> 00:55:59,760 verify that i believe is true and it's 1669 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:02,240 not just like i hear a story for example 1670 00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:04,240 i don't just automatically sign up i i 1671 00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:06,400 try to get to know these people i try to 1672 00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:08,559 maybe track them for a couple years not 1673 00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,640 literally track them but follow them and 1674 00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,640 maybe conver and have conversations with 1675 00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:14,400 them and see how the story might or 1676 00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,240 might not change how how maybe they have 1677 00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,319 new experiences and then after a period 1678 00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,240 of time i could say okay you know what i 1679 00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:22,079 feel this person is telling me the truth 1680 00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:23,680 i'm going to put this out there i'm 1681 00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:25,520 going to put my name on this story yeah 1682 00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:26,720 that's kind of what we're doing with 1683 00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,599 altered that's so cool and it's a really 1684 00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:31,599 it's a great podcast i highly recom i 1685 00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:33,119 know that subscriber number's gonna go 1686 00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,839 up i'm one of them and it it deserves it 1687 00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,160 and going down this um you're right 1688 00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,839 where you left off about consciousness 1689 00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:41,680 that seems to be 1690 00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:43,520 where everything is going and that 1691 00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:45,359 consciousness is the source of all 1692 00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:47,440 reality and that these dimensional 1693 00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,359 beings or 1694 00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,200 ultra-terrestrial or basically that 1695 00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:53,280 there's more going on quite literally 1696 00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:56,480 under our noses in real time 1697 00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:58,000 yeah i'll tell you one more quick story 1698 00:57:01,750 --> 00:56:59,599 this is the next leg of my trip i'm 1699 00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:01,760 going to uh hot springs arkansas where 1700 00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,480 eric mitchell lives sweet and he had an 1701 00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:06,559 experience in 2013 1702 00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:08,319 where they were he and several of his 1703 00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:09,680 friends were at the apartment complex 1704 00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:11,359 having a barbecue out there in the patio 1705 00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,680 area and this big giant ball of light or 1706 00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:15,280 whatever you want to refer to it as i 1707 00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,880 can't even hover it over them all the 1708 00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:19,040 neighbors ran into the house he chose to 1709 00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:21,040 just stay there look at it this thing 1710 00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:22,400 zapped him 1711 00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,040 and and then after that his life changed 1712 00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:27,760 his he became he says he had whatever 1713 00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,920 happened to him he was suddenly about 40 1714 00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:31,839 smarter and more intelligent than he was 1715 00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:35,040 prior so over a period of time doing his 1716 00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:36,559 own personal research trying to figure 1717 00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,559 out what had happened to him he was able 1718 00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:40,559 eventually to get an mri and they 1719 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:43,119 located us a part of his brain that was 1720 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:44,720 kind of lit up 1721 00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:46,160 and so they've been doing research 1722 00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:47,760 through harvard that nobody knows about 1723 00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,119 this yet but this is going to come out 1724 00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,200 in the future very soon and also at 1725 00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:53,440 stanford which eric davis's stanford is 1726 00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:54,880 not happy that i've even mentioned this 1727 00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:56,880 he's blocked me on twitter because it's 1728 00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,720 a private study that's not even public 1729 00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:00,559 but they're studying the brains of 1730 00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,799 experiencers and they're finding that 1731 00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,480 there's a part of their brain that is 1732 00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:06,720 lit up about 30 percent brighter than 1733 00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:08,559 what a standard human who's never had an 1734 00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:10,720 experience before that is proof and 1735 00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:12,000 evidence that's going to come out in the 1736 00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,760 future that's going to verify these 1737 00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:15,280 people having real experiences and 1738 00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:17,280 something is happening to them 1739 00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:19,839 it's absolutely fascinating i i love 1740 00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:21,760 it's fascinating i love eric mitchell 1741 00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:23,119 and talk about 1742 00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:25,280 very intelligent guy and like you said 1743 00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:27,760 got uh got this download and now has 1744 00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:29,119 this 1745 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:31,119 antenna ability really he knows when 1746 00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,640 these things are coming and they come 1747 00:58:35,829 --> 00:58:34,240 often and like you said when you look 1748 00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:35,839 for these things i think even the 1749 00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,160 layperson just about everybody will 1750 00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:40,079 start to see them more a lot of people 1751 00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,400 don't keep their eyes to the skies and 1752 00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,400 and they try to uh like you said it 1753 00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,319 scares people they try not to look at it 1754 00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,799 so you're completely right on that any 1755 00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:51,040 any last last 1756 00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:52,160 thoughts you have 1757 00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:54,400 no i'm just i'm looking forward to when 1758 00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:56,000 you and i get to hang out again i mean i 1759 00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:57,359 know you're you're family man you're 1760 00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:59,440 busy but i know that i know that time's 1761 00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:01,040 coming and i can tell you 1762 00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:03,280 certain people i get a vibe about and 1763 00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,559 there's just i don't know what you want 1764 00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:06,559 to call it but i just know that when you 1765 00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:08,480 and i get together some stuff's going to 1766 00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:10,480 happen i just feel it so i'm excited 1767 00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:11,839 about that i'm looking forward to it 1768 00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:13,680 yeah man and i can't thank you enough 1769 00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:16,640 for coming on the podcast uh i highly 1770 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,920 appreciate it and i can't wait to talk 1771 00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:19,280 to you again man have a great rest of 1772 00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:20,480 your journey 1773 00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,839 okay brother we'll talk to you soon have 1774 00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:23,599 a good and and thank you thanks audience 1775 00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:25,040 for listening 1776 00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:27,440 there he is ladies and gentlemen eric 1777 00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:30,240 awakening man definitely check out the 1778 00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,359 altered podcast and 1779 00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:35,280 i'm afraid we didn't go into too many 1780 00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:36,799 stories but he has so many but you get 1781 00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:39,760 the idea lots of knowledge in the field 1782 00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,079 constantly researching and just the kind 1783 00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:44,559 of guest we like on hero paranormal 1784 00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:46,079 until next time keep your eyes to the 1785 01:00:00,790 --> 00:59:48,000 skies feet on the ground but don't